INTELLIGENCE BRIEF · AMERICAN ALCHEMY
Dylan Borland: The Triangle, the Images, and Who’s Running the Show?
Dylan Borland, a former U.S. Air Force geospatial intelligence specialist, sits down with Jesse Michels for a wide-ranging account of a 2012 encounter at Langley, the material he says he later learned about, and the questions that followed him into protected reporting channels.

Dylan Borland Interview
Borland says the government has close-range triangle footage, high-resolution imagery, and recovered craft. Then he describes an ICIG exchange that left him wondering whether humans are really running the show.
That last part is Borland’s interpretation, not an official declaration. It is also the moment this interview grows from one person’s extraordinary sighting into a much bigger question about secrecy, control, and what the people inside the system may believe.
Main account
One night at Langley. A much larger story after it.
Borland’s story begins at Langley Air Force Base in 2012. He says a light rose near a NASA hangar, moved toward him, and resolved into a dark triangular object that stopped close overhead. His phone heated up, the call dropped, the controls stopped responding, and the object then climbed to altitude in seconds.
Years later, Borland says people who believed he had already been read into a protected program spoke to him about material he was not supposed to know. In this interview he goes much further than the encounter: he says close-range triangle video and high-resolution government imagery exist, and he expresses certainty that craft not made by present-day humanity were recovered.
The conversation keeps widening. Borland describes protected reporting, withheld names, alleged surveillance, a strange VA testing experience, and an ICIG question sequence he took as a powerful hint that non-human intelligence might be involved in the cover-up itself.
We pulled the interview into six paths. Start with the Langley encounter, or go straight to the part that made you stop.
What caught our attention
Six moments that changed the shape of the interview
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The Images He Says Exist
Borland is unusually direct here: he says government-held cell-phone video shows a triangle from within roughly 100 feet, and he says higher-resolution imagery also exists. When the host raises bodies, Borland’s answer is less cleanly phrased; his certainty is clearest on the footage, imagery, and recovered craft.
Open craft and imagery - 02
Who’s Running the Show?
Borland says he believes non-human intelligence may be involved in the cover-up. He then describes an ICIG question sequence that, in his view, strongly hinted humans were not ultimately in charge. No official statement is supplied; the significance comes from the way Borland says the questions unfolded.
Open the ICIG exchange - 03
A Triangle on a Cell Phone
The sighting itself is one thing. Borland’s claim that close-range cell-phone video now exists is another. He says the footage could end the argument over whether large triangular craft are real objects. The interview does not show the video or identify its custodian.
See what he claims - 04
The Experiencer-Testing Conversation
The discussion jumps from Borland’s medical experience to a call involving Kit Green and K. Randall May, testing of veterans and government personnel, the word “hybrids,” and a proposed Uri Geller MRI experiment. It is one of the strangest, most connection-heavy stretches of the interview.
Open experiencer testing - 05
Counting Backward While Images Flash
Borland describes being connected to sensors in a VA setting while images flashed on a screen. He says he had to count backward by sevens and an air horn sounded when he stumbled. He does not know the program’s purpose, and the interview provides no medical records or independent explanation.
Read the VA account - 06
The Names He Wouldn’t Give
Borland repeatedly refuses to identify people or protected program material. Around that silence sit allegations of break-ins affecting people he knew, a duplicated phone, monitored conversations, career consequences, and the need for a dead-man switch. Procedure becomes personal very quickly.
Open the reporting path
Rabbit holes
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The Langley Encounter
A light near the NASA hangar, a dark triangle overhead, a phone that stopped cooperating, and an ascent Borland says took only seconds.
Open the encounter. Opens this topic without losing your place in the Brief.
Craft, Bodies & the Imagery He Says Exists
Borland separates what he says he knows directly, what he says he learned through work, and what he infers from later questions.
Open craft and imagery. Opens this topic without losing your place in the Brief.
Who’s Running the Show?
The interview’s biggest implication begins with Borland’s belief about the cover-up and a question he says an ICIG official asked next.
Open the ICIG exchange. Opens this topic without losing your place in the Brief.
Programs, Whistleblowing & the Dead-Man Switch
Protected material, withheld names, Congress, AARO, alleged surveillance, and the personal cost of deciding to speak.
Open the reporting path. Opens this topic without losing your place in the Brief.
Experiencer Testing
Borland’s VA account connects to a cited Green–May call, veterans and officials with experiences, “hybrid” language, and Uri Geller.
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Consciousness, Psi & the Nature of Reality
Remote viewing, predictive dreams, memory, simulation, theology, and the possibility that the phenomenon changes the people who study it.
Open consciousness and reality. Opens this topic without losing your place in the Brief.From the source
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Featuring Dylan Borland, hosted by Jesse Michels · Published August 5, 2026
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