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Intelligence Brief: Revisited

Lue Elizondo & Diana Pasulka

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Aerospace engineers wanted Diana Pasulka’s research on angel encounters. Lue Elizondo had a major revelation coming. And somewhere in this conversation, AI enters the picture as something that might help us understand whatever the hell we’re dealing with.

That is a lot to casually put in the same interview.

This conversation with Disclosure Team’s Vinnie and Carolina Garcia first came out in January 2025 and was rereleased in September 2026. That changes how I hear it. The big announcement now has a past. The AI comments feel harder to brush aside. And the angel discussion has me wanting to rewatch a Nicolas Cage movie, which was not where I thought this was going.

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An engineer examines historical encounter accounts brought by a researcher.
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Why her, and what are we being prepared for?

The angel research is the way in. Then I start wondering about the people who wanted it, what they showed her, and how these conversations might be changing the rest of us.

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An enormous gilded pedestal and lavish spotlight reveal a single tiny breadcrumb.
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The announcement, and the timing

Coming back to an old conversation means we can finally ask what happened after “just wait.” It also makes the interest in disclosure now worth another look.

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A nearby quadcopter, distant airliner and unresolved light occupy separate parts of a waterfront sky.
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The lights overhead

The drone discussion is a good place to notice how differently “we’re looking into it” and “it’s been explained” can land when you’re still wondering which incident anyone means.

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A helpful AI robot makes an exaggerated heroic entrance as people look relieved and bemused.
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AI, the technology and the sales pitch

This is where my thoughts start connecting across the interview. What if the way we understand a breakthrough depends on who we’re told created it? And what are we being promised that breakthrough will do for us?

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A person and a hovering orb share a faint light pattern whose origin is unclear.
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Contact, consciousness and the mixed messages

The part that takes this beyond a conversation about objects in the sky: what if the person having the experience is part of how the encounter happens? And why do the resulting stories leave us with such different pictures?

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